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S8 Ep279: THE FIRE GIANT'S CAVE AND RITUAL OFFERINGS Colleague Eleanor Barraclough. The discussion descends into Surtshellir, a massive lava cave in Iceland associated with the fire giant Surt. Barraclough describes archaeological finds deep within the cave, includ

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 5 January 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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THE FIRE GIANT'S CAVE AND RITUAL OFFERINGS Colleague Eleanor Barraclough. The discussion descends into Surtshellir, a massive lava cave in Iceland associated with the fire giant Surt. Barraclough describes archaeological finds deep within the cave, including a stone wall and a boat-shaped structure filled with burnt offerings like bones and jasper. She posits these were sacrifices to appease a fire being following a volcanic eruption around 900 AD. The final offering, a Christian cross, suggests a closure to these rituals. Barraclough connects this to a saga poem where a giant predicts the end of the pagan world. NUMBER 6

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel with the author and historian and broadcaster,

0:05.0

Embers of the Hands, Hidden Histories of the Viking Age by Eleanor Barakoff,

0:10.0

who reads her book brilliantly.

0:13.0

And we're now going to go into another mystery that is extremely scary.

0:20.0

It's a cave, a lava cave, on Iceland, I believe, called CERT.

0:26.5

And in that cave is a belief system.

0:29.9

Let's descend into the cave.

0:31.8

I'm presuming you haven't yet, Eleanor.

0:34.0

If you have, I want to hear about it.

0:36.3

No, I'm desperate to you. I haven't.

0:39.3

The archaeologists who've been, you know, exploring this cave system, they're wonderful.

0:44.3

I've had some incredible conversations with them and I'm just itching for them to take me in.

0:48.3

I'm not sure if it's going to happen.

0:51.3

But essentially, this is a bit like when we're talking about Estonia, and this

0:55.5

is evidence that has only recently come to light, the same is true of this cave. It's called

1:00.9

Sertz-Hettler, and Hetler is just the word for cave. Sertr is this fire giant who appears

1:08.5

at Ragnarok. Now, we can't trace the name, Sertzatler, back to the time

1:15.8

when what's happening in the cave is happening. So that's important to say. But certainly that

1:21.5

association between this fire giants and this lava field and what's underneath the lava field does come fairly early.

1:30.6

And so, you know, it is also a possibility that that is exactly what is going on.

1:36.4

So when the archaeologists first found this cave, which is in this haphamundarraine, this huge lava field from this eruption, this volcanic eruption

1:47.0

that took place in around 900. When the archaeologists first found the cave, they thought

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