I'm John Batchew with Charlie Gasparino.

Charles Gasparino is on Fox business all the time, covering breaking news stories.

But what he's done is the, he's done us the favor and the hard work of going back to when woke capitalism started.

And Zuccotti Park, Charlie and I both were there at different moments, seeing what

essentially was an encampment, not dissimilar to some of the encampments that have been

in the news recently, but it was centered around, well, it was sentimental, reminded me of my youth and the anti-Vietnam protests of the 1960s and 70s.

There were Marxist books laid out.

There were, well, there were no NLF flags, but in any event it was that, it would have been if it was 1969 and not 2011.

And the people who were there tended to be her suit and not corporate,

but they were objecting to something that was not true, but it was in the news, that the banks were

paying out big bonuses despite the fact that many people had lost their houses because

they'd bought something they couldn't afford.

That was the great recession. Here we are, though, talking now about some acronyms, and I need

some definitions, Charlie. You mentioned Larry Fink, and I find him a compelling person chiefly because

he talked to you. So many of these CEOs did not, and that's not helpful. That doesn't tell us what

happened. All right, you've mentioned ESG and T and DEI, those two things. There's also HR, and I became

suspicious after a while, Charlie, that the HR invented all this stuff. Is that true? Did they embrace it first

and then it went up the corporate ladder? Great question. I don't think so. I think it was

embraced at the top and I think it got infused into the corporate ecosystem at places like Davos

and the UN began with it with ESG environmental social

governance investing. Dei and you know in these sort of you know it's interesting you know

CEOs are very very very very much into group think I mean all these guys they all go to

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