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S8 Ep272: THE 1921 DISASTER OF THE R38 AND THE HELIUM PROBLEM Colleague S.C. Gwynne. S.C. Gwynne details the 1921 disaster of the R38, a British rigid airship that broke apart due to inadequate testing and structural weakness. He explains that Britain was forced to

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 3 January 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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THE 1921 DISASTER OF THE R38 AND THE HELIUM PROBLEM Colleague S.C. Gwynne. S.C. Gwynnedetails the 1921 disaster of the R38, a British rigid airship that broke apart due to inadequate testing and structural weakness. He explains that Britain was forced to use explosive hydrogen because the United States controlled the world's limited supply of non-flammable helium at that time. NUMBER 1

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World with John Batchelor.

0:10.0

Here's John Bachelor.

0:12.9

August 23rd, 1921, R38 is a rigid airship.

0:19.4

That is an introduction to a story that involves a much larger airship

0:24.7

nine years later. That ship is His Majesty's airship. And the author's S. C. Gwynn tells us this is the

0:34.0

life and tragic death of the world's largest flying machine.

0:39.0

I welcome Sam,

0:40.4

Gwynn. Sam, a very good evening to you. Thank you for this.

0:43.2

We go to August 23rd, 1921, because this was a voyage to demonstrate the authority and the success of a rigid airship to the British population flying over the city of Hull

0:55.7

and then over the Humbert River eventually 12 days later. What we're looking at here is a rigid

1:03.0

airship that people have a vague understanding of because of the Hindenburg tragedy. What at the time

1:10.6

was the ambition of those flying that ship?

1:14.8

How did the United Kingdom, how did the British Empire regard rigid airships now two years

1:21.6

after the Versailles Treaty? Good evening to you, Sam. Good evening. Yes, this was a major event in the post-war years in Great Britain.

1:35.1

R-38 was meant to be kind of a world-beater. These rigid airships, and we think of rigid

1:40.7

airships, it's not a blimp, it's not a balloon. It is a steel, think of a steel structure in which there are these huge gas bags that allow to, a blimp doesn't have any steel structure around it. And of course, a balloon doesn't either. So these things were, if you think of the Hindenburg, that was one. So that will frame it for people. But this, in the immediate post-war years,

2:03.0

this was Great Britain's attempt to kind of beat the world

2:05.6

in this technology that had been around for about 20 years,

2:09.0

vented by the Germans.

2:11.2

And what they were gonna do was fly this absolutely enormous.

2:16.9

These things were bigger than anything than anybody

2:19.9

had ever seen before. They were on the level of a large ocean liner, and yet they were

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