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Here's John Batchelor.

This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchel.

It's a great pleasure to welcome my colleague and friend and mentor, Gregory Copley,

for his new book, The Noble State Governance Options in an Innoble Era.

We begin with the word noble, as in nobility.

That is critical to understand because we have not left it behind in the Enlightenment period.

We are not headed to a period where the word noble is going to take on some other version of

itself. It is now what it was 100,000, 2,000 years ago. It is a quality and it attaches

to people of all kinds. However, we need to define it very carefully here because we're talking about politics in the 21st century.

Gregory, congratulations.

A very good evening.

Nobility, a definition that can help us through this conversation.

Good evening to you.

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