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S8 Ep264: PLATO'S LETTERS AND THE WHITEWASHING OF DION Colleague Professor James Romm. The conversation examines Plato's thirteen letters, specifically the five Romm believes are genuine regarding the Syracuse affair. Plato viewed himself as a wise lawgiver capable

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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PLATO'S LETTERS AND THE WHITEWASHING OF DION Colleague Professor James Romm. The conversation examines Plato's thirteen letters, specifically the five Romm believes are genuine regarding the Syracuse affair. Platoviewed himself as a wise lawgiver capable of reforming a tyrant, though he was naive about practical politics. In the seventh letter, Plato attempts to rehabilitate the reputation of his associate Dion, spinning the narrative to portray Dion as a virtuous victim of evil rather than admitting his political failures. NUMBER 12
1245 PLATO ACADEMY

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I'm John Batchel with Professor James Rom, who spent way too much time thinking about this.

0:41.1

So I'm going to wander into this as if I'm wandering into a Byzantine challenge.

0:47.6

Where did those letters come from?

0:49.7

The book is Plato and the Tyrant, the Fall of Greece's Greatest Dynasty,

0:52.8

and the Making of a philosophic

0:54.2

masterpiece. There are 13 letters, all of which are said to be Plato's letters intact, outside

1:01.8

of the Republic, outside of statesmen, outside of all the other works. The seventh letter has a lot

1:07.6

of detail in it that we've been going in ways following the Dionysian clan.

1:15.3

But there are letters that are said to be more or less likely.

1:19.2

What's your opinion in general, Professor?

1:22.0

Are there traps in here?

1:24.0

Or I note that these letters have been argued about for more than two millennium,

1:29.4

and there seems to be proponents of letters from both sides.

1:34.9

Yes, it's a very controversial topic in scholarship.

1:42.7

I only offered my opinion on five of the letters, the ones that deal most centrally with the Syracuse episode,

1:50.5

and I accept those five as genuine.

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