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This is Job Bachelor.

Conversation with the author, Moody Al-Rashid, her new book,

Between Two Rivers, The Story of Mesopotamia,

the ancient cities of Mesopotamia. And here, Moody addresses Ur and the discovery that the

bricks that built the ziggurates and the walls were messages from 2000, 2,000, 3,000 years before the building of the wall.

They were also messages from the men and women who built the wall in the cigarette.

Stamped messages.

As if every element of building was important to leave behind, we were here. Here's the ziggaret of o'er. These are

ancient towns, dating to 4,000, 5,000 years ago. Much more of this coming up later in the month.

Mudia al-Rashid, between two rivers.

Yeah, great question.

So some bricks get stamped with an inscription,

and we sort of in the field call it the earliest printing press

because it's essentially a stamp,

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