In the casino, something as small as the roll of a dice or the spin of the slots holds the thrill of the unknown.

Sign up with Bet Victor, and when you wager 10 euro, you'll get 50 euro in bonuses on selected games, plus 100 free spins on Big Bass Splash.

Place your best bet at Bed Victor.

18 plus new customers only.

Offer expires within seven days of sign-up 40 times wagering requirement.

Visit bedvictor.com,

pretiesensiesgamblingcare.com.

Please gamble responsibly.

This is John Batchel.

Conversation with the author James Rom,

his new book, Plato and the Tyrant.

This is the background story, the back story

of the Republic, the book, The Republic, and Plato's philosophy, which he printed on the

minds of the Academy, 4th century of BCE, and for 2,500 years have been a source of inspiration

and contest and puzzlement by philosophers

of each age, everybody projecting on the basis of the government of the moment.

The ambition of the philosopher king, I learned from Professor Rom, did not come to the late

18th century.

In the Greek times, they were thinking,

what is a ruler, what is the best kind of ruler, tyrant, democracy, oligarchy,

democracy, that means the landed owners, the landed gentry oak dominated everything.

And in this passage, James describes why it was that Plato first went to Syracuse.

...