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S8 Ep248: HOLLYWOOD POLITICS, DIVORCE, AND MEETING NANCY Colleague Max Boot. Boot examines the collapse of Reagan's marriage to Jane Wyman as her career outpaced his post-WWII. He discusses Reagan's navigation of the "Red Scare" as SAG president—publicly liberal bu

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John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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HOLLYWOOD POLITICS, DIVORCE, AND MEETING NANCY Colleague Max Boot. Boot examines the collapse of Reagan's marriage to Jane Wyman as her career outpaced his post-WWII. He discusses Reagan's navigation of the "Red Scare" as SAG president—publicly liberal but privately an FBI informant—and his subsequent marriage to Nancy Davis, who became his essential protector and political partner. NUMBER 3
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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm with Max Boot. His new book is His Life and Legend, Reagan,

0:09.0

the story of Ronald Reagan. It's Hollywood. It's 1948. And in a movie that they star in together,

0:16.0

he meets a woman named Jane Wyman, who's been in Hollywood for a number of years. She comes from

0:21.7

the Midwest, as Ronald Reagan does, and she is a femme fatale. She will become one of the great

0:31.1

actresses of this period. Not when she meets Reagan, however. She's still in B movies. Max, I can't figure this marriage out.

0:39.5

Can you? It is an odd combination. Well, it sort of, it sort of makes sense because Jane

0:46.6

Wyman had come out to Hollywood at a very early age. And as you can imagine, for an attractive

0:51.8

actress of that era, it was a very difficult life, right?

0:55.5

I mean, she had to be constantly fighting off people who were trying to get her onto the casting couch.

1:00.4

This was, you know, the long before the Me Too era, it was, it really had to be very tough and deal with a lot of traumatic things to be an actress.

1:11.2

And I think part of what attracted Jane Wyman to, part of the reason why Jane

1:16.6

Wyman was attracted Ronald Reagan was because he was such a nice guy.

1:20.0

He was not a guy who would take advantage of her.

1:22.1

He was kind of her white knight.

1:24.7

He was always a gentleman or so she thought.

1:28.9

And he was somebody who would kind of protect her from the predators in Hollywood. And so, and she, you know, he was also, you know, very easy on

1:34.5

the eyes. He was a very handsome guy. You know, he was, he was touted as a beefcake in the, in the movie

1:40.8

magazines of the late 1930s. And so, you know, she fell for him and wanted to marry him, but found that, as others

1:48.2

were to find, it was very hard to get Ronald Reagan to commit.

1:52.5

He was, you know, happy to hang out with Jane Wyman, and she became, he had kind of a

1:56.7

rap pack of friends from the Midwest and who followed him to L.A.

2:00.5

And she hung out with them.

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