S8 Ep236: BENEDICT ARNOLD AND PEGGY SHIPPEN Colleague Professor Richard Bell. Professor Richard Bell continues, discussing Peggy Shippen's influence on Benedict Arnold's defection and their subsequent life in London. NUMBER 15
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 24 December 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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PEGGY SHIPPEN
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Bachelor. She's 18 years old. |
| 0:10.4 | Blonde hair, extremely well-educated, and ambitious. When she meets a man named Arnold, Benedict |
| 0:17.3 | Arnold, who's 40 years old and badly in debt and wounded out of the war after being heroic for many battles for Washington and for the patriot cause. |
| 0:29.2 | And Peggy Shipman stands there and is eyed by Arnold, I imagine. |
| 0:36.6 | This duo make history and still make history, |
| 0:41.8 | thanks to Professor Richard Bell's book, |
| 0:44.0 | The American Revolution of the Fate of the World. |
| 0:46.4 | I had never met Peggy before, Professor, wow, what a... |
| 0:50.6 | There's a woman like this in every stage play we can find, but I didn't know she was real. |
| 0:56.6 | Who was Peggy Shipman when she met Benedict Arnold? |
| 1:00.9 | I love that last comment, John. |
| 1:03.3 | You know, I see a lot of plays. |
| 1:04.6 | I love plays. |
| 1:05.4 | And the liaison d'angerure, a play about French intrigue. There's a woman in that play, |
| 1:14.3 | who is one of the most sort of cunning, sort of manipulative figures in modern theatre history. |
| 1:21.5 | And she reminds me a little bit of young Peggy here in the American Revolutionary War drama. |
| 1:26.5 | So Peggy comes from what had once been a neutral family, |
| 1:30.3 | but is increasingly a loyalist-leaning family. That's the Shippon family, their merchants in Philadelphia. |
| 1:36.4 | They faced a number of sort of patriot attacks for refusing to endorse the Patriot cause, |
| 1:41.4 | pushing them ironically ever closer to the loyalist cause. |
| 1:45.0 | And when Philadelphia falls back into Patriot control later in the war, Continental Army |
| 1:53.8 | officers like Benedict Arnold, the greatest combat general on the Patriot side, rush into |
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