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S8 Ep235: STATE DEPARTMENT RECALLS AND STRATEGY Colleague Mary Kissel. Mary Kissel discusses the recall of career ambassadors by the Trump administration and challenges in Panama and Greenland. NUMBER 5

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🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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STATE DEPARTMENT RECALLS AND STRATEGY Colleague Mary Kissel. Mary Kissel discusses the recall of career ambassadors by the Trump administration and challenges in Panama and Greenland. NUMBER 5
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0:00.0

This is CBS I on the world.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.4

I'm John Batchelor.

0:15.4

Headline in Europe, headline in Washington.

0:18.1

Trump administration plans to promote loyal diplomats after recall of 30 ambassadors,

0:23.6

according to sources. That's the Guardian. In Washington, Trump administration abruptly recalls

0:29.1

over two dozen career ambassadors. That's the Washington Post. And the New York Times. Trump

0:34.4

administration orders nearly 30 U.S. ambassadors to leave their posts.

0:39.2

The use of very careful choices of verbs tells the story of the politics of the moment.

0:45.8

However, I need to learn about how it works at the State Department, so I welcome my good colleague,

0:51.4

Mary Kissel, Executive Vice President Stevens Incorporated now,

0:55.7

but traveling with the Secretary of State, a senior advisor, Mr. Pompeo, for several years.

1:02.0

So the intricacies of ambassadorship.

1:04.5

Mary, a very good evening to you.

1:05.7

As I understand it, there are ambassadors and there are ambassadors.

1:10.6

The big embassies, the ones that are associated with American past, Paris, London,

1:16.9

they usually receive an ambassador who is a major contributor to the president,

1:22.3

either monetarily or politically at some point.

1:26.0

All the other embassies are for career state department employees.

1:33.3

Have I said all that correctly?

1:35.0

And these 30 ambassadors, is this something that's never happened before at once?

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