S8 Ep235: REGULATING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE Colleague Kevin Frazier. Kevin Frazier continues, warning against a "waterfall of regulation" by states and advocating for "regulatory sandboxes" to allow experimentation. NUMBER 8
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🗓️ 24 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my good colleague Kevin Fraser, who is my guide, who is my guide. |
| 0:09.5 | He's my Virgil to the landscape. |
| 0:13.0 | We'll not call it Hades. |
| 0:14.3 | We'll say it's not heaven. |
| 0:16.3 | It's not Hades. |
| 0:17.7 | It's that other thing. |
| 0:18.8 | It's in between. |
| 0:20.4 | And in between is discovering a new technology |
| 0:23.2 | that looks like robotics. I understand that. And Isaac Asimov dominates that. A robot shall not |
| 0:31.7 | hurt a human being or permit a human being to be hurt in its presence. And then the other law is saying, |
| 0:38.5 | you must preserve yourself as long as it doesn't violate law one. |
| 0:42.9 | And you must preserve all other robots |
| 0:45.2 | as long as it violates not two and one. |
| 0:48.7 | What I realize in reading Kevin's material here |
| 0:51.6 | is that I, as a young science fiction reader, just assumed you |
| 0:57.2 | had to put regulations on robots. You see what that is. That's a regulatory environment, |
| 1:04.0 | sometimes called imperialism. And those regulations are helter-skelter, they're on the way certainly in Europe and recently the |
| 1:13.5 | Trump administration moved to keep them from peopling not only the states of the union but the |
| 1:19.7 | municipalities within the states Gavin reading your articles and watching AI in the news |
| 1:27.0 | at this point there's a waterfall of regulation coming. |
| 1:31.3 | And I can see that it starts out to be benign. You know, we just don't want children to fill in the |
| 1:37.9 | black. But it's turning into complete blockage of AI development in certain areas of the country. |
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