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I'm John Batchel with my good colleague, Anatole- Levin, the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.

He's the head of the Eurasia project, which is why I come to him on these quandaries that the Ukraine war has illustrated, didn't create, illustrated.

For example, ask yourself, the pledge to in NATO to spend 2% of the GDP on defense.

Defense from whom, exactly, not the year 2025, but the year 20, 2001.

Defense from whom? Who was attacking us in 2001? Who was going to attack us in 2001? All right, leave that rhetorical

inquiry behind. In these last days, Anatole, since we last talk, there have been remarks,

I especially keen on the remark from the Prime Minister of Finland, saying he needs money from

Brussels now because he has an 800-kilometer, 800-mile border with Russia,

and they're going to be overrun with Russian threats when the Ukraine war finishes or winds down.

We know that Mark Rudy has made a similar speech, but there's reason to believe that Germany now

is going to spend 50 billion euros on building tanks and drones,

and they're even debating the draft. I know they turned away from it, but it started the debate.

Defense from whom you've mentioned before, these are 32 states who are convincing themselves or are being

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