S8 Ep210: PREVIEW Guest: Professor Ed Watts Summary: Professor Watts details the historical inevitability of conflict between Rome and Carthage, driven by Mediterranean geography and control over trade routes between the wealthy East and resource-rich West. He expl
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🗓️ 18 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | This is John Batchster, a conversation with Professor Ed Watts, his book, The Romans, A vast history. |
| 0:07.0 | Here the professor addresses the first contest that brought Rome up from dominating the Italian peninsula to dominating the Mediterranean basin, both sides. |
| 0:18.0 | The battle with Carthage. |
| 0:20.0 | Its resources, its people, its position, its geography, |
| 0:26.0 | and its contest for Sicily tell a story of what appears to be fate, |
| 0:32.8 | Carthage versus Rome. |
| 0:34.3 | Ed Watts, much more of this tonight and weeks to come, the Romans. |
| 0:39.8 | Yeah, basically, when you look at the geography of the Mediterranean, the Mediterranean has |
| 0:45.2 | kind of, it's one basin, but there are two parts of it. The Eastern Mediterranean in this |
| 0:49.5 | moment, in antiquity, was the wealthy, urbanized center of production. |
| 0:56.0 | And the Western Mediterranean was the center of raw materials. |
| 1:01.5 | And in the middle was the Italian peninsula and what's now Tunisia and Sicily. |
| 1:07.1 | So whoever controlled that middle controlled the access of the access to raw materials that those |
| 1:14.3 | wealthy urban areas in the eastern Mediterranean needed. And Carthage initially was founded by |
| 1:21.4 | Phoenicians coming from the Eastern Mediterranean to set up trading colonies that would allow |
| 1:27.2 | them to participate and dominate |
| 1:29.3 | that exchange. So Carthage was the dominant economic power that managed the exchange |
| 1:36.3 | of goods across this territory. But as Rome expanded, it quickly came into, after its conquest |
| 1:43.3 | of Italy and then the defeat of Paris, it quickly came into, after its conquest of Italy and then the defeat of peers, it quickly came |
| 1:46.0 | into a conflict that drew it into Sicily. |
| 1:50.2 | Sicily at that moment was divided between Carthaginians and Greeks. |
| 1:53.7 | Rome came in and immediately Carthage panicked because it didn't want Rome controlling Sicily |
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