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This is John Batchel, a conversation with Anatole-Levin, about NATO and about the countries in NATO, the eastern flank, Finland to the Balkans,

who want to spend much more money of Brussels money to get ready for the Russian attack. However,

the Germans want to spend their own money and they want to spend it on tanks, among other major objects of weaponry.

And it will look very carefully at that and says, here's what you need to defend Europe from a

Russian attack. Here's what we've learned, and it's cheaper, much cheaper than you're proposing.

And what are you proposing? Building tanks?

Why?

What happened to tanks in Ukraine?

Anatole explains.

NATO is running in different directions right now,

imagining it's going to be attacked right after Vladimir Putin takes Keith.

It's possible, but Anatole is next.

Much more than I.

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