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This is CBSI on the world.

I'm John Batchelor. James Holland, the historian, his new book is Brothers in Arms, following one legendary tank regiment from D-Day to V-E-Day. We're approaching the Siegford line and then the Rhine River, which is its own barrier to the Allied advance towards Germany.

James, what was Operation Veritable?

Yeah, so this is the big Canadian Army push to cross through the Reichsfeld

and take the towns of Cleve and Gok.

Incahous, incidentally, with um general bill simpson's u.s

9th army on their right-hand flank and uh operation grenade and then close up to the river rhine so

this is clearing the rhineland to the west of the river rhine of the German territory west of the River Rhine.

And it's a major, major operation, although a lot of British Second Army units are transferred

into the Canadian Army. It is a Canadian Army-led operation of which the show had rangered apart.

And it's just, you know, it's just, what do you get, John? It's just this sort of mounting sense of the relentlessness of it.

I mean, we've touched on point one of three and crossing the Noirot and Gile, but that's only half of it.

I mean, there's a whole load of other operations that the show of Granger involved in that we haven't mentioned because of time and all the rest of it.

It's just relentless. And I think

that's the thing that really struck me when I was doing this work. And an operation variable

was a major, major operation. And it's very destructive and lots of people get hurt and killed.

And yet, somehow they just keep going. And the other thing that's remarkable

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