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This is CBSI on the World.

I'm John Batchel with James Holland, the historian,

writing most recently of Normandy, again,

but from the point of view of one regiment, the Sherwood Rangers yeomanry,

organized as a National Guard-like unit, but now, because it is a veteran of the North African campaign,

and is equipped with Sherman tanks, American-built

Sherman tanks. It is part of the front line landing on the British Gold Beach, June 6, 1944,

and also part of the genius that we're going to get to shore, not by having the landing

craft run up on the beach and lower the ramp and flow out. No, we're going to swim to shore

with our tanks prepared to float 7,000 yards to the beach and then start firing immediately.

James, it always struck me as an unusual idea, and what you evidence in this is that B&C Squadron

recognized right away that the swell makes it impossible.

Did everybody recognize that, all the other tanks who were supposed to swim to shore?

Did they also run as close as they could?

Yeah, and that's not really the choice of the tank so much. That's more the decision of the naval personnel.

I mean, I should just say for your, for American listeners, that a squadron,

a tank squadron in the British Army is the same as a tank company in a, you know, in an armored

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