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S8 Ep191: A Radical Change in Tactics — James M. Scott — LeMay devises a clandestine, revolutionary operational plan to fundamentally reverse bombing doctrine from high-altitude daylight precision raids to low-altitude nocturnal firebombing operations, ordering B-2

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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A Radical Change in TacticsJames M. ScottLeMay devises a clandestine, revolutionary operational plan to fundamentally reverse bombing doctrine from high-altitude daylight precision raids to low-altitude nocturnal firebombing operations, ordering B-29 aircraft to execute bombing runs at merely 5,000 feet altitude to evade the destructive jet stream phenomenon while simultaneously transporting substantially increased incendiary weapon payloads. Scottdocuments that LeMay deliberately targets the densely populated working-class district of Asakusa in Tokyo, strategically recognizing that Japan's predominant wooden residential infrastructure constitutes a "wood pile" catastrophically vulnerable to uncontrolled conflagration. Scott emphasizes that LeMay makes this strategically transformative decision unilaterally, deliberately withholding operational details from Washington headquarters, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and his superior command structure, thereby executing military operations without institutional authorization or oversight from civilian and military leadership.
1931 TOKYO

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0:00.0

James Scott is the author. Curtis LeMay is not satisfied and believes he will also be fired, as Hansel was, by Hap Arnold, because the strategic bombing is not improving.

0:11.7

The B-29s are not in any way surprising the Japanese. The Japanese are demonstrating that though they're blockaded, though they're losing, they're going to fight to the last.

0:22.6

They will not surrender. What is to be done?

0:25.5

LeMay, I picture him lying in his Quentin Hunt, looking at the ceiling.

0:30.1

Do we know exactly what it was, or is it him pondering Dresden and the news from Dresden?

0:37.7

Did that do it, James?

0:39.5

You know, actually, Lame, it probably begins even earlier than that because Lamee had looked at the results of the July 1943 firebombing of Hamburg, which was actually more destructive than Dresden.

0:50.4

Everybody knows of Dresden today.

0:52.3

In February 45 was Dresden, so it's about this period.

0:56.0

Yes, so Dresden is February 45.

0:58.0

Hamburg burns in the summer of 43, and Lame was in Europe then, and he studied the after-action

1:04.0

results of that.

1:05.0

So he knew what fire could do to a city.

1:08.0

And you're right, Lame spent much of his time thinking at night.

1:11.6

In fact, if you read his personal letters home, he's always writing about his lack of sleep,

1:16.8

because he's literally up all night thinking, trying to figure out how to do this. And so that

1:21.6

that's when he kind of comes to the realization that what Hansel was doing, high altitude,

1:27.3

daylight precision bombing,

1:28.6

it's simply not going to work.

1:30.9

And if he's going to attack, successfully attack Japanese cities, he's going to have to have

1:35.8

to have a radical rethinking of American strategy.

1:39.4

And he ultimately settles on a plan that is, you know, it's so perilous, it's so morally fraught that he

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