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S8 Ep186: The National Security Strategy as Transatlantic "Divorce Papers": Colleague Blaine Holt argues the National Security Strategy resembles "divorce papers" for a perilous transatlantic relationship, contending Europe, having de-industrialized, refuses Trump'

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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The National Security Strategy as Transatlantic "Divorce Papers": Colleague Blaine Holt argues the National Security Strategy resembles "divorce papers" for a perilous transatlantic relationship, contending Europe, having de-industrialized, refuses Trump's diplomatic efforts to end the Ukraine war, fearing the aftermath of a conflict they cannot sustain against a re-industrialized Russia.
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:07.0

I'm John Batchettcher, Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and co-host.

0:11.2

And we're looking at the National Security Strategy and the change of weather over continental Europe.

0:17.1

We welcome General Blaine Holt, United States Air Force, retired, who's posting an article today

0:23.0

that in its title gives you a very strong indication that the weather over Europe is solitary to Europe.

0:33.9

Blaine, a very good evening to you.

0:35.1

The title of your piece is, and it interprets the NSS, both the red and unread portions. Good evening to you. Good evening. Yes. If my editor will let me keep the title, it is a question. It is the national security strategy, or is it divorce papers? And right now I've never seen a relationship with this continent that has been in more peril than what we see today.

0:59.5

There was a meeting at number 10 Downing within these last hours.

1:03.7

And appearing at the door was Mr. Starrma representing the United Kingdom,

1:08.0

Mr. McCrone representing France, and Mr. Merritt's representing the German Republic,

1:13.9

standing around the diminutive but sturdy and bearded Mr. Zelensky.

1:19.8

To demonstrate what, and how does that connect to your observations about the NSS?

1:25.7

So they're remaining defiant to President Trump's leadership in trying to end the Ukraine-Russia war.

1:33.3

The continent is interested in furthering the war.

1:38.3

They have never since the war began, gone down what President Trump has, which is a diplomatic set of overtures dialogue,

1:48.2

trying to get some settlement in place. They even had one before them in March of 2022,

1:55.3

that Prime Minister Boris Johnson, no less, blew up, assuring Zelensky, we have your back. We're going to go through with this.

2:02.2

Well, now we're well over a million dead, and a third of a country destroyed, a third of its population,

2:07.9

never coming back because of refugee status. The president, our president, is adamant that this

2:13.6

must end. And Europe, since they won't enter into dialogues and they won't entertain his

2:19.9

leadership, they've self-sidlined themselves. Well, now the belligerence is going to a new level.

2:26.8

So you saw at number 10, President Zelensky coming out, we're not ceding any territory. That just

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