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S8 Ep135: Segment 1 — The Big Hop: Setting the Stage for the First Non-Stop Transatlantic Flight — David Rooney — Rooney discusses Lord Northcliffe establishing a £10,000 prize in 1913 to spur British aviation advancement. Following WWI, veterans including pilot Jo

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John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Segment 1 — The Big Hop: Setting the Stage for the First Non-Stop Transatlantic FlightDavid RooneyRooney discusses Lord Northcliffe establishing a £10,000 prize in 1913 to spur British aviation advancement. Following WWI, veterans including pilot John Alcock and navigator Arthur Whitten Brown partnered with Vickers to attempt the historic challenge, bringing military experience and determination to the demanding endeavor.
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.2

I'm John Batchel.

0:15.5

I welcome the author, David Rooney,

0:18.0

who's going to take us on a journey from North America to Ireland. And that journey is

0:24.4

significant in that here in the 21st century, we're living in the dreams of the men who took

0:30.2

that journey once upon a time. The book is The Big Hop, the first nonstop flight across the

0:35.9

Atlantic Ocean and into the future.

0:38.3

We are the future, so I welcome the author, David Rooney.

0:41.3

David, congratulations, wonderful.

0:43.3

We begin, however, with a man who doesn't fly, but is responsible for this story and perhaps all of aviation, perhaps all of spaceflight.

0:53.0

Don't know.

0:54.0

He popularized it. He was called

0:56.5

formerly the Viscount Northcliff. His real name was Harmsworth, Alfred Harmesworth. I believe he had a

1:02.5

modest beginning and a modest early career. Who was he? Why is he important in 1913 to put up the prize? And what was the prize for? Good evening, David.

1:16.2

Good evening, John. Thank you so much for inviting me on. Lord Northcliffe, what a remarkable character.

1:22.5

In 1913, he put up a prize, not the first prize that he'd put up in the field of aviation for the first to fly nonstop across the Atlantic Ocean.

1:33.4

He'd been born in the 1860s in Ireland, just outside of Dublin, a very modest upbringing.

1:40.6

And rather interestingly, he didn't move into book learning.

1:45.6

He got very interested in magazines and newspapers.

1:49.1

When he reached his early adulthood, he went into journalism,

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