I'm John Batchel with Colonel Jeff McCausen, United States Army retired.

I stop right there, a West Pointer, a senior officer, combat veteran, okay.

All of that means that Jeff has instincts and information and colleagues who are not available to the rest of us.

It's their world, and they make decisions.

That's what they were trading to do.

The decision I'm most interested in is what we know about the allegation against Senator Kelly of Arizona

by Mr. Hexeth, the Secretary of Defense,

and by the Trump administration.

Jeff, your opinion is helpful here because I don't want to pass judgment on men at this scale,

but Senator Kelly is a brave man.

No doubt about it, John.

And a guy I admire flew 39 combat missions.

In fact, I have learned as I was looking into this,

that he was flying combat missions in the Gulf War

when I was commanding a battalion on the ground.

So I've got a great amount of respect for him for doing that.

Also an astronaut, oh, by the way,

in addition to being a United States

Senator. Now, in theory, can the United States government call back a retired officer and

court martial? Yes, they can. I am subject to that as being a retired officer, and so is he.

It's what his actions that he took, along with his colleagues, consistent with violations of the

UCMJ that would require that to occur. In my opinion, absolutely not. I've talked to many senior

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