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S8 Ep122: CONTINUED Ukraine Peace Plans, Concessions, and the Impact on US Alliances — Bill Roggio, Husain Haqqani

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🗓️ 24 November 2025

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CONTINUED
Ukraine Peace Plans, Concessions, and the Impact on US AlliancesBill Roggio, Husain Haqqani 
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0:00.0

I'm John Batchew with Hussain Akane, former ambassador from Pakistan of the United States,

0:09.2

now a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, and Bill Rosho, senior fellow at the Foundation for

0:14.2

Defense of Democracy. Russia, not Ukraine, but Russia looks to be dominant here. These are many of the absolute demands they've had

0:22.1

from the beginning. So, Mr. Ambassador, I come to you as Russia get big smiles now wherever

0:28.9

it travels Niger, for example, or Burkina Faso, or in a central Asian Asian states such as Uzbekistan,

0:40.7

or all of a sudden Russian diplomats given credit that they didn't have before this Russian prevailing?

0:48.8

Look, I mean, if Russia comes out of it, well, yes, the impression that Russia is no longer a global clear will end.

0:57.2

But it will not endear Russia to too many countries.

1:01.8

There is an inherent suspicion of the Russians.

1:05.7

They extract much more than they give.

1:08.5

In Africa, maybe there might be a demand for Russian mercenaries, for civil wars, once again, because they will be now free.

1:18.7

Instead of having to fight in Ukraine, they will be free to fight in other parts of the world.

1:25.4

But other than that, I think it doesn't really affect Russia as much as it affects America.

1:31.9

I think that the impression that the Americans are not the kind of ally that rights to help you win freedom as it did in Kuwait. That was one of the big moments, as it did in Kuwait.

1:45.1

That was one of the big moments, as it did in the Second World War or the First World War,

1:49.8

that's no longer the case, and therefore everybody has to think.

1:55.2

If I were sort of just projecting towards the future,

1:59.6

I think that we will see the armaments

2:03.2

industries in other countries expanding. We will see more research and development in Europe

2:11.6

and every other country. I mean, look at how in the India-Pakistan conflict recently, Pakistan used exclusively Chinese

2:23.4

weapon systems and did okay.

2:28.2

And so I think that there is a bigger picture thing developing here.

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