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S8 Ep122: CONTINUED Iran's Strategic Gains from the War in Ukraine — Jonathan Sayeh — Jonathan Sayeh states that Iran is celebrating Russia's advantageous position in Ukraine as a geopolitical win ...

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🗓️ 25 November 2025

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CONTINUED Iran's Strategic Gains from the War in UkraineJonathan SayehJonathan Sayeh states that Iran is celebrating Russia's advantageous position in Ukraine as a geopolitical win ...

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchez with Bill Rosio, my colleague and co-host.

0:08.5

He is a senior fellow for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

0:11.5

He keeps the Long Word Journal, where you can routinely see reporting by Jonathan Sayah,

0:16.3

who joins us from FD this morning.

0:19.3

He is a research fellow, and he's our eyes on Iran. You will recall

0:24.1

before this present controversy over the Ukrainian war in which Iran participated with drones and

0:31.3

missiles, there was the controversy of Iran suspect nuclear weapons program. That after the B2 raid

0:37.2

launched by the Trump administration,

0:39.3

was headed to a negotiation. However, to my reading, above board, there's been no negotiation

0:46.7

about the suspect nuclear weapons program, despite the decapitation raid by Israel, the destruction

0:52.5

of the air defenses of Iran. I don't see any news at all.

0:57.7

Jonathan, is what you see, what you get, or are there reason to believe they're negotiating

1:03.1

in back channel? And what are they negotiating about the U.S. and Tehran?

1:08.7

The only reason we might suspect that there might be desire for talks at least is President

1:14.1

Trump's statements last week saying that apparently Tehran has reached out through Saudi

1:19.2

Arabia asking for negotiations again.

1:22.2

You have to keep in mind, this is a regime that's under heavy, heavy sanctions, endured

1:26.1

a war, and wasn't really able to win

1:28.8

anything outside of that war. Its nuclear program was destroyed. Of course, economically, they're

1:33.5

paying the price and they lost a lot of their proxies in the region. So they have every incentive

1:38.1

to negotiate, to get some sort of relief in one way or another. But from Washington's perspective,

1:44.1

when you look at the Islamic

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