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The John Batchelor Show

S8 Ep113: V

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Professor Lloyd Clark's book, The Commanders, contrasts the styles of Patton, Montgomery, and Rommel. Patton, born into privilege, struggled at West Point, finding it difficult to form meaningful relationships and compensating by pulling rank. Montgomery, raised by religious and disciplinarian parents, was not the brightest student and was sent to Sandhurst. Rommel, from the southern state of Württemberg, was an initial outsider in the Prussian-dominated German army.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.3

Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.7

The Commanders, a new book from Professor Lloyd Clark,

0:14.7

Director of Research at the Center for Army Leadership

0:17.3

at the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst,

0:20.7

as well as professorial research fellow

0:22.7

and war studies at Humanities Research Institute, University of Buckingham.

0:27.0

We address once upon a time men born in the 19th century who dominated the story, the tragedy

0:35.1

of the First and Second War, the Great War, and it's followed of the

0:39.4

Second War in the 20th century. And now the professor, using these examples and this detailed

0:46.2

research, is looking for the mystery of leadership, once solved in the 19th and the 20th,

0:52.6

and here we are in the 21st.

0:54.6

Always leadership.

0:55.7

Professor, congratulations in Good Evening.

0:58.4

Your book is a treat for me because you put these three men,

1:02.7

George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Irwin Rommel,

1:07.1

against each other's styles and schooling and the accidents of history. But at the same time,

1:13.4

very economically, they come together on the world stage not once, not twice, but thrice,

1:19.0

over the first half of the second of the 20th century. So we begin with George Patton. The

1:25.8

reigning detail about George Patton is that he was born into a well-to-do family

1:30.6

and he never forgot it.

1:32.7

Does that dominate stories about George Patton's youth that he was well-to-do?

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