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Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

S6 Ep8: Throwaways

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

Society & Culture, True Crime, History

4.5992 Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

The best imaginable alibi, outside of lunch with the Dalai Lama, is simply to place yourself in police custody at the time the crime is committed. If the police are with you, they know it’s not you – or so the logic goes. This is, in fact, the very thought process that stalled the prosecution of Jerry Johns for the Redhead Murders.

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0:00.0

Language and content in this episode may not be appropriate for all listeners.

0:04.9

Listener discretion is strongly advised.

0:07.8

Some voices may come from voice actors, but the words are accurate to the interview described.

0:30.0

The best imaginable alibi, outside of lunch with the Dalai Lama, is simply to place

0:53.3

yourself in police custody at the time the crime is committed.

0:58.1

But the police are with you, they know it's not you, or so the logic goes.

1:04.0

This is in fact the very thought process that stalled the prosecution of Jerry Johns for

1:09.9

the Redhead murders.

1:11.8

When Jerry went to trial for the attempted murder of Linda Shaq in 1985, investigators

1:18.5

were already closing in on him for the Redhead murders, and they were gearing up for prosecution

1:24.8

when SB Pilgrim was found locked inside an abandoned refrigerator along the I-40 corridor.

1:32.4

SB's discovery on April 1, 1985 was incredibly problematic for investigators because when

1:40.6

it happened, Jerry Johns was with them in the Knox County jail.

1:46.6

He was subsequently ruled out as the Redhead murderer, and the case went cold almost

1:53.1

overnight.

1:54.5

But the closer you look at SB's case, the more you realize how unusual it was, and that

2:00.5

throughout all of this, everyone was focused on Jerry, that they completely overlooked

2:06.1

his younger brother.

2:07.9

In fact, no one in this case appears to have paid Wayne much attention at all, except

2:15.3

I believe one unlucky transient named SB Pilgrim.

2:22.0

The weirdest thing about SB's murder was the fact that while she had clearly been murdered,

2:27.2

she did not appear to have been the victim of violent crime.

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