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Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

S6 Ep7: Throwaways

Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

Society & Culture, True Crime, History

4.5992 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

[Part 7] By the time someone becomes a lot lizard, they have, by and large, already suffered enough. Truck stop sex work is a late stop on a tour of misery that almost always begins at home. And if it doesn’t begin at home, it begins just outside of it, with bad boyfriends, bad uncles and other predators with their foot already in the door. Interview any one lizard, or twenty, and you’ll hear a similar story - their home life or love life was, to put it mildly, problematic.

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0:00.0

Language and content in this episode may not be appropriate for all listeners.

0:04.9

Listener discretion is strongly advised.

0:07.8

Some voices may come from voice actors, but the words are accurate to the interview described.

0:30.0

Long, black, outweigh, change me all.

0:46.7

By the time someone becomes a lot lizard, they have, by and large, already suffered enough.

0:53.5

Truck stop sex work is a late stop on a tour of misery.

0:58.1

That almost always begins at home, and if it doesn't begin at home, it begins just outside of it, with bad boyfriends, bad uncles, and other predators with their foot already in the door.

1:12.8

Interview any one lizard, or 20, and you'll hear a similar story.

1:18.8

Their home life, or life life, was to put it mildly, problematic.

1:24.9

One way or another, their original inner circle was fractured around them, and like the fluid of a ruptured cell, they just sort of leaked out.

1:34.6

They ran out into the interstitial space of society, into dark recesses, and places their parents didn't know, or places their boyfriends wouldn't find them.

1:46.8

In almost every case, these are places that simply should not be.

1:52.6

And no matter which is the original problem, the home life, or the love life, once one of these goes bad, the other almost always follows.

2:01.6

It's almost as if rational stability, especially for young women, is like a three-legged stool.

2:08.2

You only have to break one leg to bring the whole thing crashing down.

2:13.0

Bad boyfriends, especially in protective families, cause friction at home.

2:17.6

Bad families normalize bad relationships, so vulnerable girls go looking for love, with no idea of what it actually looks like.

2:26.3

Either way, one bad relationship can quickly become a death spiral, a relational mayhem, that leaves these girls clutching at anything they can hang onto.

2:37.0

At which point, the wider community, the proverbial third leg of our crashing stool, and their last real hope for stability, can do little to save them.

2:47.9

When these most intimate relationships go bad, people leave them, especially young people, and they almost always fly into the arms of something worse.

2:57.8

They are looking for literally anything else, and they find it.

3:02.2

Only a few find a good Samaritan with the patience and resources to help them.

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