The happiness which God designs for his higher creatures is the happiness of being freely,

voluntarily united to him, and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which

the most rapturous love between a man and woman on this earth is mere milk and water.

And for that, they must be free.

This is Pines with Jack, season five, episode 35, ecumenism month. Baptist Lewis? After hours with Dr. Layton Flowers. Good morning,

everyone. Pints with Jack is your weekly CS Lewis podcast. We're three friends.

Andrew, David, and Matt break down and discuss the works of C.S. Lewis. And this season, we've

been talking about love, and we worked our way through Lewis's book, The Four Loves. And with that

behind us, we're now in ecumenism month, speaking to people who love C.S. Lewis, but who come from

a diverse range of religious backgrounds, Calvinism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and today, Baptist, and

specifically a Texas Baptist, Dr. Layton Flowers. Dr. Layton Flowers earned a bachelor's degree

in applied theology from Hardin-Simmons University. He received a

Masters of Divinity with biblical languages from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary,

and completed his doctorate at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary. Layton has served as

pastor of a local church for over 10 years. He is the host of the Cisteriology 101 podcast,

and he served as the Director of youth evangelism for Texas Baptists

for 13 years, and in 2018, was named the director of evangelism and apologetics.

Leighton regularly travels to churches of all sizes to conduct seminars that specialize in evangelism

and apologetics. And together with his wife, Laura, they have four children and live just

outside of Dallas, where he also serves as an adjunct professor of theology for Trinity Seminary.

Dr. Layton Flowers, welcome to Pines for Jack.

It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.

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