For natural loves that are allowed to become gods do not remain loves.

They are still called so, but can become, in fact, complicated forms of hatred.

Love ceases to be a demon, only when he ceases to be a demon only when he ceases to be a god.

This is Pines with Jack, season five episode two.

The Four Loves, chapter one, introduction part two.

Good morning, everyone.

Pines with Jack is your favorite C.S. Louis podcast.

We're three friends, Andrew, David, and Matt break down and discuss the works of C.S. Louis.

This season, we're talking about love.

Slowly working our way through the four loves by C.S. Lewis.

The book he writes about affection,

friendship, romance, and charity.

Guys, how are you all doing? You like my little favorite drop in there? I know David picked up

on that. Well, I hope it's their favorite. It's certainly my favorite. That's what I meant.

Well, it's been, it's their favorite. It's certainly my favorite. That's what I meant. Well, both.

Oh, it's been, it's a busy week. I thought this was going to be a light semester, and I have been proven woefully wrong here at the seminary. We're recording on All Hallows Eve, and I have not reread the Charles Williams novel in honor of All Hallows Eve, not yet anyway. But all of our children in our seminary community did their trick-a-treat last night.

So we sat on porches and had fires and saw costumes and all of that. So in the middle of the full

week, I got a wonderful email from Professor Simon Horribin.

He was at the Oxford C.S. Lewis Society last term on Zoom.

And he is an Oxford professor who is working on CS. Louis's annotations to his own copies of literary works. So he's looking at Lewis's comments

in the margins of his Shakespeare or his Chaucer. So he and I just had struck up a friendship and

got an email from him asking me to come to dinner at table in Hall at Modlin next summer.

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