I'm Rebecca LaVoy. Welcome to the Undisclosed Dendom. Today we're talking about Tom, episode 12

of the new season of Undisclosed. It's about Jeff Titus, who was convicted of the 1990

murders of Doug Estes and Jim Bennett 12 years after the double homicide in 2002. Titus

is currently incarcerated in Michigan and has always maintained his innocence. If you haven't

listened to the episode, we're going to be talking about I strongly suggest you pause this

podcast and go back and listen episode 12. It is awesome. And then come back and listen

to this conversation because we will still be here. We have a special guest joining us

today. And our guest is Amber Hunt. She's an award-winning journalist, best-selling author

and host of crimes of the centuries, a history meets true crime podcast on the Obsess Network,

and accused one of my all-time favorite podcasts for the Cincinnati Inquirer for which

she reinvestigates old cases in the search of new leads. Hey, Amber, it's great talking

to you. Hey, I miss you guys. I miss you too. By the way, I shall also mention Amber is

also my real-life friend. And of course, with us is Susan Simpson, one of the hosts of

Undisclosed, a lawyer and super investigator and the lead on the Jeff Titus case. Hey,

Susan. Hey, Rebecca. So, Amber, I understand you know a little bit about the Titus case.

Can you tell me what you know and just give me your impressions of this case generally?

When the case was re-investigated, I actually was kind of a greening cub reporter in Michigan

at the time. So I remember I was paying attention to it. And I was also very impressed

that they could come up with an answer after so many years. But I was also covering my

very first murder back then. And I was real stupid. So I become a little more jaded in

the interim here just a little bit. Yeah.

Now, Amber, your podcast, accused, looks at cold cases basically and or cases that may

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