Sometimes you've got to have an intervention for your friend, and that's the most loving thing you can do.

Be like, hey, guess what?

You've...

You look real bad.

You've let yourself go.

We need to have a wake-up moment.

You look at a mirror. Welcome to cultivating the lovely. I'm your host, Mackenzie Kappa. And around here, we know that life is hard,

and we have to do everything we can to just make it a little bit more lovely. So it's my mission to

bring you great conversations, practical tools and information, and a healthy dose of community

to help make those things happen. If you want to find out more, you can go to our website at

cultivating the lovely.com, visit our amazing membership community at patreon.com slash cultivating

the lovely, or by connecting with me on Instagram, which is one of

my favorite places to interact with all of you. You can find me at McKenzie Kappa. Thanks so much for

joining me today. Ladies, this podcast has been kind of long awaited for me. Okay, really long

awaited because I have been trying to get my best friend Rebecca to come

and see me for like four years and we finally were able to make it happen even in the midst of all

of this craziness. And she's had a lot happen in the last year and even in just the last six months

or so. And I have had a rough year and we were

able to just kind of do like some catch up on things that are happening in our lives, some

kind of crazy things, but then also some really fun things and good things. And we go into all

of that in this episode. I think it's a really fun catch up episode episode if you have followed the show for a while and you

are very familiar with who Rebecca is, or we kind of even give a little bit of a rundown of how we met

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