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S5, Ep 8 Best Friend Therapy: Uncertain Times - How can we cope with uncertainty? Why can it make us anxious? Can it also offer opportunity?

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Emma Reed Turrell

Society & Culture, Mental Health, Relationships, Health & Fitness

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

It's that time again, it's our season finale!

And this week on Best Friend Therapy, we thought it fitting to send you into the break with an episode all about uncertain times.

We explore how cultural events such as the pandemic, the cost of living crisis and economic uncertainty can manifest in anxiety, and we also examine the potential for growth and change therein.

We suggest that certainty might not be the only antidote to uncertainty, if we can find other ways to settle and soothe our nervous systems.

Emma helps us recognise the difference between dread and excitement and Elizabeth explains why she's always nice to Siri.

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Elizabeth talks about ClearScore and you can find out more about how they can help at: https://www.clearscore.com

Emma references the research of Elizabeth Kubler-Ross and you can read more about her life and work at: https://www.ekrfoundation.org/elisabeth-kubler-ross/

If you're struggling with uncertainty, below are some services that might be able to help:

Mind: https://www.mind.org.uk/need-urgent-help/using-this-tool/
Samaritans: https://www.samaritans.org
Citizens Advice Bureau: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk

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Best Friend Therapy is hosted by Elizabeth Day and Emma Reed Turrell, produced by Chris Sharp.

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Social Media:

Elizabeth Day @elizabday

Emma Reed Turrell @emmareedturrell

Best Friend Therapy @best.friend.therapy

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Best Friend Therapy. I'm Elizabeth Day, author and

0:05.8

podcaster and for over 20 years I've been best friends with a therapist.

0:10.3

That's me. Hello, I'm Emma Reed-Tarell and I'm a psychotherapist. In my private

0:15.2

practice I talked to clients about the challenges they face in daily life and

0:18.5

we work together in a non-judgmental supportive space to increase their

0:22.0

sense of well-being. And as her BFF I get all the benefit of her expertise and

0:27.0

wisdom for free. Emma makes me feel better about life but also helps me to

0:31.8

understand why I act the way I do. Ah, thanks Liz. She's also one of the only

0:37.2

people allowed to call me Liz. We wanted to open the doors to our friendship and

0:41.8

throw a light on the therapy we all need in our everyday lives. Each week we

0:46.5

chat about what's on our minds to get deeper in our minds. Two best friends, one

0:51.7

therapist, no filter. That's Best Friend Therapy. Welcome back to Best Friend

0:58.8

Therapy and this week we are talking about uncertain times and fittingly I

1:03.8

have no idea what we're going to talk about. What about you Liz? I was just

1:09.0

thinking that uncertain times sounds like an early work by Charles Dickens

1:12.5

before he got to bleak to hard times and bleak house. Uncertain expectations.

1:18.0

Yes, exactly. Actually expectations is probably a good place to start but the

1:23.6

reason that we wanted to do this episode is because we appreciate that for so

1:28.5

many of you and us it is a really difficult time right now. We have the

1:33.8

cost of living crisis. We have uncertainty in global terms. We often don't

1:41.6

know where we are in comparison to where we feel we should be in our own

1:44.9

lives. I know that it's a very difficult time for businesses and people might

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