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Slow Burn

S5 Ep. 1: The Exile

Slow Burn

Slate Podcasts

News, Society & Culture, History, Documentary, Politics

4.625.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Eighteen years have passed since the United States invaded Iraq. It’s a war that killed hundreds of thousands of people and destroyed America’s credibility on the world stage. How much can that war be traced to one Iraqi exile’s longstanding quest to return to Baghdad? Season 5 of Slow Burn is produced by Noreen Malone, Jayson De Leon, and Sophie Summergrad. Mixing by Merritt Jacob. Production help from Margaret Kelley. Slate Plus members get bonus episodes of Slow Burn and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

On March 19, 2003, the United States invaded Iraq.

0:05.6

This season of slowburn is about the events and arguments that led up to that day.

0:09.6

So now you know where we're going to end up.

0:12.7

But where do we start?

0:16.8

George W. Bush made the call to launch the invasion, but it wasn't when he'd come into

0:20.8

office to do.

0:22.3

Bush, like any president, was influenced by people in his administration.

0:28.0

Some of them had been spooked by 9-11.

0:30.4

Others had been pushing to get rid of Saddam for a lot longer.

0:33.8

You'll hear about all of that later in this series.

0:36.6

But in this episode, I'm going to tell you about someone else.

0:39.8

His name is Ahmed Chalabi, and opposing Saddam Hussein was his life's work.

0:44.8

So Dam is an insult to my being.

0:50.0

He's an insult to my country.

0:52.0

He's an insult to our history, to our culture.

0:56.8

Chalabi was an aristocrat, an Iraqi exile who was brilliant and charismatic.

1:01.6

He was also a bullshit virtuoso with a core of absolute conviction.

1:06.4

He might have heard of him.

1:07.5

He played a very public role in the push for war after 9-11.

1:10.6

But what you might not know is that he tried to start another war with Iraq a few years

1:15.0

earlier, and he got weirdly close to pulling it off.

1:20.7

So let's start there.

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