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S4, Ep 3 Best Friend Therapy: Friendaholic - What makes a friendship addict? Why was Elizabeth compelled to write a book about it?

Dial Emma

Emma Reed Turrell

Society & Culture, Mental Health, Relationships, Health & Fitness

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This week on Best Friend Therapy, we are lucky enough to have an access-all-areas, behind the scenes pass to Elizabeth's brand new book, Friendaholic: Confessions of a Friendship Addict, published by 4th Estate on 30th March 2023.

She tells us why she felt this subject was one she had to write about, how the language of friendship has been lacking so far and left us ill-equipped to set boundaries and evolve our friendships into something more authentic.

Emma talks about the difference between being friendly and being friends, and Elizabeth explains why her previous friendship strategy was all about finding safety in numbers.

Friendaholic explores friendship break-ups, ghosting, the fetishisation of friendship in our culture, the impact of social media and why one size does not fit all. We chat about the masks and mirrors of friendship, why we shouldn't judge a friendship by text turnaround times and why we all have to be responsible for spending our friendship budgets wisely.

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Elizabeth references Glennon Doyle's podcast "We Can Do Hard Things", the work of Robin Dunbar on friendship numbers and Frederick Nietzsche on stars.

Friendaholic is available to pre-order here: https://amzn.eu/d/7TUbwYG

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Best Friend Therapy is hosted by Elizabeth Day and Emma Reed Turrell, produced by Chris Sharp.

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Social Media:

Elizabeth Day @elizabday

Emma Reed Turrell @emmareedturrell

Best Friend Therapy @best.friend.therapy

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Best Friend Therapy. I'm Elizabeth Day, author and

0:05.8

podcaster and for over 20 years I've been best friends with a therapist.

0:10.5

That's me. Hello, I'm Emma Reed-Tarell and I'm a psychotherapist. In my private

0:15.2

practice I talked to clients about the challenges they face in daily life and

0:18.5

we work together in a non-judgmental supportive space to increase their

0:22.0

sense of well-being. And as her BFF I get all the benefit of her expertise and

0:27.0

wisdom for free. Emma makes me feel better about life but also helps me to

0:31.8

understand why I act the way I do. Ah, thanks Liz. She's also one of the only

0:37.2

people allowed to call me Liz. We wanted to open the doors to our friendship and

0:41.8

throw a light on the therapy we all need in our everyday lives. Each week we

0:46.5

chat about what's on our minds to get deeper in our minds. Two best friends, one

0:51.7

therapist, no filter. That's Best Friend Therapy. Welcome to this week's episode of

0:59.4

Best Friend Therapy. We're so excited to be with you this week and more than

1:02.8

ever because today we are lucky enough to be in the presence of the most

1:07.8

esteemed author, the venerable journalist and writer that is Elizabeth Day.

1:14.7

You're so excited, yes it is not me. It's not, it's just Liz but we are in the

1:20.1

presence of an esteemed author today because Elizabeth, you have a book. Stop, don't

1:25.2

call me Elizabeth. Ever again. Yes, Elizabeth. Stop, Elizabeth. Don't, it makes me feel

1:32.9

chilled to the book. Does it really? We've discussed this before. Emma's one of the

1:37.6

only people who's allowed to call me Liz. I don't like being called Liz by

1:41.3

almost anyone else but when you call me Elizabeth it's worse somehow. All right,

1:45.4

yes. Anyway, we'll workshop that another time. The point today is that there is a

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