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I think we have to start by reviewing our EV special from last week.

I have a degree. We can't just ignore the elephant in the room.

Because it was a big episode for us and episode I'm super pleased we did. We were building up to it for a long time. We were trying to prepare.

We tried to be as prepared as possible. We launched into it. We walked away thinking, you know what? We think we did a good job.

We presented a kind of a fair picture of the EV landscape. Sam did a great job I think. The episode went live.

And it remained as controversial as any EV topic ever is on this podcast.

I don't think you can prepare. I don't think we don't normally prepare anyway, which is why we do what we do.

I mean, you do a lot more pairing than me, but for things like that, we don't know. It's not scripted. We don't know what he was going to say.

So, you know, we just had to respond on what he said and we challenged him.

Yeah, I think we kind of listened. We didn't cover every avenue because it would have been four hours long.

I literally was forcing the conversation to end towards the end of the episode because Sam very kindly basically agreed to give us 45 minutes of his time.

We ended up recording for I think an hour and 20 minutes nearly and I was desperately trying to wrap things up. But you're right, there was so much to discuss.

And it kills me to say, you know, I don't prepare for these. I put so much preparation, which I have to do.

Each of these episodes, I'm working. And you're like, oh, we never prepared. I'm like, well, especially that episode. There was a lot of preparation.

But I'm glad to see that you recognize that Tony. But now you're right in the sense where we launched into it with a lot of questions.

And we weren't sure what was going to come back. But I think Sam really, you know, held his own. He was obviously passionate about, you know, electric vehicles, the infrastructure, everything about that.

He was always going to champion it. But I think we did a good job at taking on a lot what he said, but also challenging a lot of what he said.

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