Now, if we're honest, reading the Bible consistently can be a challenge, but know that it's never

too late to start and we're in this together. Thanks for journeying with us. And here's your host, Emma, daughter.

Thanks for joining. Today, we are reading Luke 23 and 24, and I am in the podcast studio with

faithful watermark member, Roe Stipe.

Great to be here.

Roe, good to have you back.

Always a pleasure. I feel like it's been a full calendar year. It's been a while. So for those who don't know you, would you share a little bit about what God's done in your life? Sure. Kind of a classic case of one foot in and one foot out. There probably was never a point in my life where I would not have claimed to be a Christian.

However, there was a point in my life where I would not have claimed to be a

Christian. However, there was a point about the age of 20 when I kind of noticed that things started

to change. The things that I desired and the things that I longed for changed. And I started to

desire the presence of the Lord in a way that I had not prior. And I think last time when I was here and you asked me that question, I kind of stumbled through it because I didn't really know what to include. And I think really the gist of it is there was one day in on or about, you know, May 2017, where I woke up and I was dead in my sin. And then by that point when I had gone to bed at night, I had been given a new life in Christ, and then somewhere in between, you know, the Holy Spirit intervened.

And I can't really explain what happened, nor can I explain why God harden Pharaoh's heart. But for some reason, he saw fit to save me. And ever since then, he's given me a new course in life and a new purpose and sort of the desire to make disciples is

kind of what drives me now. And that was not true eight years ago. So I love it. Yeah,

that's what the Lord's done in my life. Praise God. And what do you do for work? I'm an attorney.

Amazing. So as an attorney, when you're looking at the trial of Jesus in Luke 23, what stands out?

What does it reveal about justice, human justice and divine

justice? Would you notice? So I think the first caveat I would add, I would not call it a trial.

Okay. Because this really doesn't resemble a legal process. So there's no right to counsel. There's no

cross-examination of witnesses. There's really no rules of evidence. Not even clear what Jesus is being accused of, I would throw it more into the category of political theater. And right before, for context, Jesus is standing in front of the Sanhedron, which is the Jewish ruling council, and he invoked the title, Son of Man, which comes from Daniel chapter 7. And that is the vision that God gave Daniel, that there's someone who

is given the title son of man who sits at the right hand of God and judges at the end of time.

So when Jesus claimed the title son of man in Luke 22, the chapter right before, the high priest

tore his robes basically considered it blasphemy because what Jesus said was, I am the Messiah.

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