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Patreon page at patreon.com slash undisclosed pod. If you believe the state's case, Dennis Perry is someone

who is both incredibly violent and incredibly racist.

He is someone who shot down two people in a church, because he saw an opportunity to satisfy not only his desire for revenge over a petty slight,

but also his desire to find out what it was like to kill a black person.

And he is also someone who is cold and calculating enough to

get away with it for 15 years. You haven't heard from Dennis Perry yet in this podcast, and my hope

is that one day maybe you will. For now, though, Dennis Perry can't speak for himself, which

means any sense of what kind of person he was and is has to come from others.

And those who have known Dennis Perry will tell you the same thing.

There's nothing they've seen about Dennis Perry that would make them think he was possibly capable of committing these crimes.

This is totally, totally not him.

I just do not believe, and I will always believe he had nothing to do with this.

That's Karen Perry.

She didn't know Dennis at the time of the murders at Rising Daughter, but she met him only a few years after.

And, for 13 years, she was Dennis' wife.

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