Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Crime Weekly. I'm Stephanie Harlow. And I'm Derek Lavasser.

So today we are diving into part three of the Christian Griggs case. And there's been a lot of

discourse about this case in the comments section, which is great. It's what we want. I think,

you know, Derek and I both are kind of engaging in that same thing together while we're filming

these episodes going back and forth. No one knows what happened. No one

knows what any of these people were thinking. We can only look at the evidence and the context and

try to theorize what happened there. But yeah, lots of discourse. We love it. And the truth is we'll

never truly know because the people that were there, Christians no longer with us. And then you only

have the other side. So it's only one story, essentially. But I do have some house cleaning things about that because some people were, again, mostly respectful coming at me in the comments, wanted me to respond. I'm going to do that. Like I always do. I don't shy away from it. But a quick thing about what just happened, because the whole Charlie Kirk situation happened after CrimeCon. We hadn't recorded an episode since then. This is our first episode since we've been back. So there's some episodes that have come out and people are like, oh, you guys haven't said anything about it. What's going on? Are you just ignoring it? Well, first off, this is the first time we're getting behind our microphones. But secondly, and we're always going to be transparent with you guys.

This is not like a surprise to anyone.

This has been very highly politicized.

And we know it's plutonium.

There's no right way to approach this where you're going to please everyone.

Not that that's what we're trying to do because we come out

with hot takes all the time. That's, that's what I think you guys love about us is because we don't

hide behind it. Landmines left them right. We love stepping on them. So here's what I'll say.

And Stephanie and I haven't really even talked about it much. We talked about it the day it happened

and it was really brief. Here's the one fundamental

thing that I think most of us can get behind it. All should be able to get behind it. We should not be

out there murdering people for their for their opinions, regardless of whether you agree with them or

not. It's a fundamental thing. I think as part of a civilized society,

when you don't agree with someone, you don't have the right to kill them. And in the way that he

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