This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to The Maid for This Podcast.

Hey guys, welcome to today's episode of the Made for this podcast.

Today's guest is actually someone who's been on the show before.

If you remember, Andy Krauch was on talking about how we can use our phones in smart ways and not let them rule our lives,

but we have him back today and this interview with Jenny and Andy is just amazing.

Get your notebook out, your pencil so you can take notes. I think what he has to say today

about this season and coronavirus and where we're at as a church and as people might be a little bit shocking to you,

but it's so good, it's so hopeful, and it's

going to give us a vision for how to do this season better.

Andy is a partner for theology and culture at Praxis, and he's the author of a few amazing books including

the Techwise family. Well Andy it's so good to have you and what I'm excited about talking about is

really just perspective as we deal with this I feel like you have given us,

Zach and I specifically, and a lot of people,

because those articles you wrote really went viral.

You have given all of us a lot of perspective.

So let's talk about what you see as unique about this moment in time and I know

there's not much about our lives that haven't changed. So what do you see though

specifically to do with the church and business and as Christians how do we view this time?

Oh man, there is so much. I mean, the first thing is how long of a duration this is going to be

in terms of how it changes all of our lives in really profound ways.

In one of the pieces that we wrote at Praxis, we talked about the difference between a blizzard, the whole season called winter and something we called the Little Ice Age.

I think initially a lot of us felt sort of like, maybe not in Texas.

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