Welcome to the Standard of Truth podcast, hosted by historian Dr. Garrett Dirkmont,

where we explore the early days of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

and gain rare historical insights into how a young farm boy was able to establish a new church

and grow it by way of visions,

manifestations, and miracles.

Hi, welcome to another episode of the Standard of Truth podcast.

I'm your host, Dr. Garrett Dirkmont, and I'm joined by my friend, Professor Richard Leduke.

Hello, Garrett.

In this week's podcast,

we're going to hit on a couple of topics

that we said that we weren't going to be talking about

for some time.

Yeah, I feel like this was a long-running war

that I lost somehow.

Somehow.

We received an email, and it tugged on the old proverbial heartstrings and I think that at

least in the words of Dr. McEnarney, we're going to talk about it's part of it.

Just part of it.

Well, I mean, it is going to become very obvious to you very quickly why it is the topic so difficult

to discuss because there are so many sources and there are so many passionate feelings about

it that trying to have a conversation in 50 minutes to an hour

to however long this is going to be, we don't even know yet, it just makes it pretty

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