I think sometimes success has a momentum to it that can be quite hard to sort of feel like you own or at least can see through and make it relevant to you.

I've just had a conversation with the woman who needs no introduction.

If I just say kitchen disco, you're going to know who I'm talking about.

I was obviously speaking to Sophie Alice Bexter,

the pop icon behind songs that, I don't know, just shaped my life really. Murder on the

dance floor, groove jet, and now her brilliantly and hugely empowering album, Perry Menopop. And we spoke

a lot towards the end of the podcast about just how

liberating, I think, releasing an album, giving us sort of permission to come out of now, thankfully,

knowing about menopause, knowing about this whole stage, maybe then going through the fear

into this album, onto the dance floor.

And, you know, Sophie is just a really, really nice woman.

She has her feet firmly on the ground.

Even when she talks about her music career, parenting, how she manages her world and life. It really made me feel quite calm and centred.

She has a serenity around her. And it's really, really quite a wonderful thing to be able to

hold that feeling whilst being this utterly successful generational pop artist who just,

you won't see it, but just is so beautiful as well. It just, it was the whole thing was just,

you know, I want to be like her when I grow up, even though she's two years younger than me.

This conversation's full of laughter

and reflecting on real life moments and it's so relatable and it definitely makes you want to

dig out your sequins and your platforms and your, I don't know, leotards, if any of you wore them

and get dancing because she just brings joy, Sophie.

She's enthusiasm really encapsulated in a midlife woman, and I'm so glad to know her.

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