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Foul Play: Crime Series

S2 Ep67: Sister Cathy, Unmasking Deception – The Language of Lies, Part 2

Foul Play: Crime Series

Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins

True Crime, Society & Culture, News, Daily News, History

4.4986 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Shane and Gemma are accompanied by Mike, a seasoned expert in behavior detection with a background in federal government operations. Mike brings his expertise to the table, illuminating the conversation with insights into the nuances of human behavior under the lens of scrutiny. His personal recount of a traumatic upbringing in a Catholic school system, marred by harsh discipline, sets the stage for a deeper understanding of the psychological aftermath of such environments.

As the conversation delves into the technical aspects of behavior detection, Mike elucidates the subtle yet telling signs that may indicate deception, stress, or fear. He describes how involuntary microfacial expressions, self-soothing actions, and mismatches between verbal and non-verbal communication can betray an individual's attempts to conceal the truth. These insights offer a fascinating glimpse into the art and science of discerning authenticity, particularly within the context of high-stakes situations.

Further enriching the discussion, Mike applies his knowledge to analyze the behavior of those connected to Sister Cathy's case, identifying potential discrepancies that suggest hidden tensions and unspoken narratives. This analytical approach not only casts a new light on public reactions and statements but also provides listeners with a framework to interpret the truth behind the words.

The episode takes a critical look at the Netflix documentary "The Keepers," as Shane, Gemma, and Mike dissect the behavior of interviewees during specific timestamped segments. This dissection is not merely for intrigue but to afford a practical application of behavior detection principles, offering a compelling dimension to the ongoing investigation.

Listeners are invited to engage with the series' exploration of truth and facade at itsfoulplay.com. This episode promises a captivating journey into the psychological underpinnings of deceit, laying bare the complexities of uncovering truth in a maze of lies and fear. Join us for a session that transcends the conventional narrative and challenges us to look beyond what is said to what is truly meant.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm going to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Welcome back everyone.

0:30.0

everyone. Jim is not going to be with us today. She's not feeling very well.

0:33.7

So it's going to be Mike and I.

0:35.2

Mike, let's go ahead and jump into episode four.

0:38.6

What's the first time stamp?

0:39.6

Okay, thanks, Shane.

0:41.4

I think you have me back. First time time stamp, we're looking at Sharon May in episode four, and we're looking at 1230. Right at the very beginning when she starts talking. She's talking about, she was driving to the

0:54.4

cemetery when they were digging up all the evidence and she's explaining very

0:58.4

flamboyantly that she was driving a red convertible and it was explaining all this stuff and

1:05.2

that irrelevant information overly specific information that the listener

1:09.3

doesn't need to know about she could just say hey we were driving to the cemetery to see this evidence being dug up.

1:15.0

That's all she just say, but that that thing though she wanted to come across that she's open, she's fun.

1:21.0

I was having a great time, the sun was out or whatever in my convertible and I was on my way to see that so

1:27.0

It was kind of a sign of deception. Hey, I'm open

1:30.2

I'm gonna give you what you need. I'm going to answer all these questions honestly.

1:34.0

It was kind of interesting to see that.

1:36.5

Yeah, that's a really good point. I like how you worded that she was being over specific.

1:40.3

I remember when I first watched it and I first saw the interview with Sharon I thought that it was an awkward exchange

1:47.4

Like why are you telling us about this beautiful convertible and how excited you were that had nothing to do with what we're talking

1:54.2

about nothing to do with it and it's just totally irrelevant like I said she

1:58.3

wants to be open and candid and be like hey but it's a serious matter.

2:02.5

She's going to drive to see the evidence being dug up and she's kind of making it about herself.

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