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you Guys Guys, this is a tough episode, but it needs to be heard.

And Kevin is so brave, and I am very moved and honored that he felt we were allowed to hear and tell his story on this podcast.

It's very important in light of the interviews interrogation of Art Smith on his deathbed.

One might be thinking or having compassion for the late priest.

However, this interview with Kevin Brun will show you that Art Smith was not a man who deserved

compassion, and Art Smith was a man who subjected many to abuse, including Kevin Brun.

So as I mentioned, this is a difficult episode.

This is a tough subject matter.

This is a full trigger warning here.

There are graphic details and painful emotions that will be expressed in this episode. And our heart

goes out to Kevin Brun. We truly appreciate and respect his bravery for being willing to come on the podcast and tell the story, but it's very

important to understand that this is real. These things happened. This abuse has been happening

for 50, 70, 100 years. Who knows how long and how far back it goes, and they're still trying to cover it up today.

So please take care when listening to this interview. Make sure you're in a good mental space.

And without further ado, here's our interview with Kevin Brun.

Hi, Rachel.

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