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George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell)

S2 Ep122: Grand Juries Are Resisting Trump’s Show Trials (w/ Andrew Weissmann)

George Conway Explains It All (To Sarah Longwell)

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Longwell is joined by Andrew Weissmann to break down Trump’s latest power grabs — from sending the National Guard into blue cities, to attempting to fire the Fed governor, to RFK Jr.’s anti-vax chaos at the CDC. Weissmann explains how courts, grand juries, and even officials are pushing back, what it means for democracy, and where the real dangers lie.

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0:00.0

You've got to have a vision for the future that is going to win a majority coalition that can beat back this autocratic fascist movement.

0:07.8

And I don't see any of that.

0:09.2

My biggest fear is that authoritarianism ultimately wins because people sort of can't be bothered to get up off the mat.

0:20.6

Hello, everyone, and welcome to George Conway explains it all to Sarah.

0:25.5

I'm Sarah Longwood, publisher of The Bullwark, and George is away today.

0:29.6

So we've got Andrew Weissman joining us.

0:32.5

Hey, Andrew.

0:33.6

Hi, I hope it's not going to be Andrew Weissman explains it all.

0:36.7

I'll explain a little bit.

0:38.7

Well, you just have to explain all the illegal news to me. That's it.

0:43.5

How long do you got? I mean, it's about an hour. But what I have found is that our audience

0:49.5

never minds if we go long. So if it's a good show, long show, we'll do what we can.

0:55.7

So I'm particularly excited to talk to you today because you spend so much of your career as a government lawyer.

1:01.4

And you may know that much of the illegal things we're seeing right now is coming out of the government.

1:05.3

You are a federal prosecutor.

1:07.1

You serve as the chief of the criminal fraud section at DOJ.

1:10.2

You were the general counsel of the FBI. And you were the lead prosecutor in the Mueller investigation.

1:15.5

So I guess I just feel like if anybody can explain the insane way, the federal government is currently comporting itself.

1:21.3

It's you.

1:22.3

So let's jump right in.

1:24.2

Where do you live?

1:24.8

Do you live in New York or D.C.?

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