Hello friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology Narrow. My guest today is Mike Erie. Mike

has been a pastor of several different very large churches in Southern California. And then he

took a hiatus from ministry for a little bit. And now he's back in ministry as a teaching pastor

at Journey Church outside of Nashville, Tennessee. He's also the host of a podcast. It's very similar

to Theology Narrow. It's called boxology. It was formerly called the box podcast. If you have not

listened to Mike Erie's podcast, I think you would really enjoy it if you enjoy this one at all.

Mike is just a brother from another mother. We I don't think we've ever hung out in person,

but we've known each other for years online. You know, he's endorsed some of my books. I've had

them on the podcast before. We chit chat back and forth not as much as I would like, but periodically.

He's just a great, great honest dude, curious dude. And I'm excited for you to listen to him.

So please welcome back to the show. The one and only Mike Erie

Dude, you're well as guests that want to have on like every other week. I don't.

It's been a while since you've been on and that's so unfortunate. It's totally on me. I'm sorry.

Listen, it's when two when two guys who are similarly good looking and similarly intelligent

I mean, I get that there's a bit of a like the opposite of magnetism. I get that. I get that.

And so I understand I'm threatening in some ways and it's okay. I'm totally fine with that.

We don't have a YouTube channel and now you're seeing the reason why.

So last time we talked, you were in exile back in Ohio.

Well, you're down in Nashville now past past strain or part of a, I forget your role.

You guys are teaching pastor. How'd that come about? Teaching pastor. Yeah. Oh my goodness.

So like a lot of us, I had done the mega church thing and had done it according to the values

and systems that were kind of handed down and realized I was just not a very good one.

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