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From BBC Radio 4, this is Things Fell Apart, season 2. two.

Throughout this season of things fell apart, I've been tracing the origins of the culture wars that had guffed us within days of each other during lockdown and still tear at us. It turns out that one unlikely man connects every culture war I covered this time around.

From Judy Mikeovic to Antifa and Black Lives Matter and the Great Reset and Trans Rights.

He is an important culture warrior fueling each of those fires.

And so I wanted to make this final episode all about him and the journey that took him here.

His name is Mickey Willis.

So Mickey, can we start with you just introducing yourself who you are, what you do?

Absolutely well, my name is Mickey Willis. I'm an independent filmmaker.

I moved to Hollywood as a young boy with stars in my eyes and was swiftly brought into the reality of what happens behind the curtain of Hollywood.

Mickey's mistrust of the elites began in Hollywood, although at first everything had seemed promising.

He's unusually handsome with husky eyes and a chiseled jaw, hence Hollywood's doors

opening for him.

As a decent looking young man, I just had an offer to do a little bit of modeling and that led me into in front of the camera and I had some reoccurring roles on some old TV shows.

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