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Welcome to Raising Good Humans. I'm Dr. Lisa Pressman and today's episode I am talking with

author Temi Locke. This is the second part of this conversation. I hope you will find it as

meaningful and helpful and inspiring as I did. I was so moved by her story. She experienced

and then shared with the world the story of great love she met Phil and love with and then cared

for a man who ultimately died and she was also raising her daughter with him during her caregiving

of her partner and then caregiving in grief with her seven-year-old daughter. Not only did she

share her story but she also shared how those of us who are going to be on play dates or support

people who have either lost or are currently in the process of going through both grief and care

giving at the same time. How we can best support them as friends, as co-parents, as partners,

as teachers, as peers, as mothers in the community and it was really nice to have access

to find out the best way to be supportive of someone, to know what you can offer in terms of help

and know what is not super helpful. If you enjoy this episode please write a review. It's so

helpful to get the word out. You can subscribe to my newsletter drlesa.bulletin.com.

Those first three years after he died, how did you care give and get care?

I was at rock bottom, so I came to being a solo parent after 10 years of caregiving.

So I came to grief and widowhood already exhausted. But the other thing that the caregiving taught me

by that point was I knew I was like, I can, there's no way I can do this alone. Now I'm

this is, I can't do any of this by myself. And so I was more willing as a newly widow person to

receive and ask for help. One, because it became very hard for me to do basic things, especially in

the first six, seven months. Driving a car sounds strange, but all of my sense of space and time

was very disoriented, which is not an uncommon thing that can happen. And if you don't know this

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