S1E59 / A Perfect Storm for Depression – Deaths of Despair Pt II / Anne Case & Roy Perlis

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

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4.6 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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"This is not like a lot of the other disasters that people have studied. It looks a lot more like what you'd expect to see in people who have lived through a war. " -Roy Perlis This is the second in our two-part series about deaths of despair during the pandemic. We speak with experts and review the latest data on how the pandemic is affecting rates of depression, anxiety, and even suicide in the United States. We’ll look back at what was driving these deaths before the pandemic, the impact of the economic fallout on depression, and how this crisis may change access to mental health services in the future. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

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0:00.0	This is sort of a perfect storm where you have more forces pushing people towards a depression. You have that sort of chronic stress plus the acute stress of either getting
0:18.6	sick or having a loss.
0:21.0	So their work life is fragile, their home life is fragile, their community life is fragile,
0:26.1	so sort of a Turkimean recipe for suicide. You're listening to Epidemic, the podcast about the science, public health, and social impacts of the coronavirus pandemic.
0:46.3	I'm your host, Dr. Saline Gounder. And Kays grew up outside Binghamton, New York. It's a city upstate not far from the Finger Lakes region.
1:05.6	There was a lot of industry there. There were really good jobs there.
1:09.8	IBM got its start there. Singer Link made flight simulators there.
1:15.0	These were high-tech well-paying jobs.
1:18.0	Anne went to a big high school and says about half the students were college-bound, but most of those people didn't move back to
1:26.0	Binghamton after college. IBM and a lot of big companies pulled out of town, and those great jobs went with them.
1:34.0	The people that I knew in high school who are not college-bound who are very good people
1:39.0	somehow are trying to still keep body and soul together with jobs that are much less good
1:46.8	jobs than they are capable of and much less good jobs that I think they deserve given how hard they work.
1:56.3	And didn't move back either.
1:57.9	She went on to become a professor of economics and public affairs at Princeton University.
2:03.0	Back in 2014, Ann was studying suicide with her husband and research partner, Angus Eaton.
2:09.0	They were looking for correlations between people's self-reported happiness and suicide.
2:15.0	Interestingly, they didn't correlate at all,
2:18.0	but what we found was that suicide rates were rising,
2:21.0	which surprised us.
2:23.2	They compared the suicide numbers against all cause mortality.
2:27.4	That's a kind of denominator for all the deaths in the U.S. in a given year.
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