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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

S1E24 / Is the CDC MIA? / Jim Curran & Mark Rosenberg

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

KFF Health News and Just Human Productions

Science, #Coronavirus, Health & Fitness, #Smallpox, Documentary, #Covid19, #Sarscov2, #Eradication, Life Sciences, Society & Culture, #Covid, Medicine

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

"I think there are some people who are afraid that the truth will hurt the economy. That if we let CDC speak the truth, that will hurt stock prices, that will hurt people's jobs and the manufacturing sector. But even when the truth may hurt, even when it's painful, we've got to know the truth. And right now, people are taking steps to keep CDC from speaking the truth.” -Dr. Mark Rosenberg In this episode, our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak to former CDC scientists Dr. Mark Rosenberg and Dr. Jim Curran about the CDC’s lack of action during the COVID pandemic, and how CDC guidelines and research have been suppressed and muzzled. They discuss the agency’s complicated history with politicians, parallels with the HIV epidemic, what’s happening to the CDC’s work in the time of COVID, and what’s at stake when politics take precedent over science. Dr. Mark Rosenberg is a retired medical epidemiologist with the CDC and President Emeritus of the Task Force for Global Health. Dr. Jim Curran led the CDC’s HIV/AIDS Division before becoming an Assistant Surgeon General and now Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. This podcast was created by Just Human Productions. We're powered and distributed by Simplecast. We're supported, in part, by listeners like you. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #COVID #coronavirus

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before we start today's show, we want to take a minute to recognize Larry Kramer, who died this week.

0:06.0

Larry was one of the leading voices in the fight against HIV.

0:10.0

He was a vital voice during the AIDS pandemic, and his passing is a reminder that we need more

0:16.2

voices like his today in the fight against COVID. I'm Dr. Saline Gounder. And I'm Ron Klain.

0:33.9

And this is epidemic.

0:35.6

Today is Friday, May 29. 29th.

0:45.0

Back in February, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC

0:50.0

hosted a routine press briefing.

0:52.0

The topic was the latest updates from the

0:54.8

CDC on the novel coronavirus. We are joined today by Dr. Nancy Messinier,

1:00.2

Director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases

1:04.8

who will give opening remarks before taking your questions.

1:07.6

I will now turn the call over to Dr. Messingale.

1:10.0

But the reporters who dialed into that press briefing got a blunt assessment from Dr. Nancy

1:14.4

Messinier about the spread of COVID in the United States.

1:18.3

We expect we will see community spread in this country. It's not so much a question of if this will

1:24.2

happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and

1:28.8

how many people in this country will have severe illness.

1:33.0

I understand this whole situation may seem overwhelming

1:37.0

and that disruption to everyday life may be severe.

1:40.0

But these are things that people need to start thinking about now.

1:44.0

I had a conversation with my family over breakfast this morning

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