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this is true crime Tuesday. I'm your host Tim Dennis. Have a very interesting show for you today folks.

You know, justice systems vary from around the world and a lot of times in our second segment

dumb crime stupid criminals. I know a lot of you have questions as when we address different

stories from around the world and you say I wonder how that justice system works in different parts

of the world. One of the ones that fascinates me, we talk about Scott Lanyard, we talk about the UK

and we talk about England and I read a really fascinating book over the weekend. It's called

a straightforward guide to catching a killer, a reference guide to murder investigation past and

present. It's written by Stephen Wade and our guest today Stuart Gibbon. Now, Stuart Gibbon

is a very distinguished guest. I think more distinguished than I deserve. That's for sure.

Stuart Gibbon is a former police officer who served for 30 years in the Metropolitan Police

and East Midlands. A large part of his career was spent as a detective at various ranks. As a DCI,

he was seconded to the inaugural East Midlands special operations unit as a senior investigating officer,

which is a high rank. We'll find out exactly how high here in a minute, leading murder investigations.

He now runs a consultancy service called GIB consultancy to help writers with their police

procedures. He also appears on TV as a policing expert and has featured in a number of true crime

documentaries, including 999 killer on the line, Deadly Women and Killer in My Village. Let's welcome

in to True Crime Tuesday, Stuart Gibbon. Hi, Stuart, how are you? Hi, Tim. How are you today?

Doing very well. Thank you so much for joining us here on the program.

I love this book and I know that you made this book as a research companion for crime writers

and readers. But I encourage our audience to go out and get this book because a lot of times

and I'll tell you Stuart, between you and I, we're talking off air a little bit. A lot of our listeners

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