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Hello and welcome to How to Fail with Elizabeth Day. The podcast that celebrates the things

that haven't gone right. This is a podcast about learning from our mistakes and understanding

that why we fail ultimately makes us stronger, because learning how to fail in life actually

means learning how to succeed better. I'm your host, author and journalist Elizabeth

Day, and every week I'll be asking a new interviewee what they've learned from failure.

Marina Abramovich is one of our greatest living artists, a woman whose work explores

presence, pain and possibility. Her performance art invites us to question both the limits

of the body and the unquantifiable nature of the spirit. Over the past 50 years, Abramovich

has pushed herself to extremes of physical and mental endurance. Perhaps her most famous

piece of art was staged in 2010 in New York's MoMA. For eight hours a day, over a three-month

period, she sat still and silent and invited members of the public to sit opposite her.

Some stayed for five minutes, others for an entire day. Some cried, others smiled. It attracted

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