Welcome to the Code Newby podcast, where we talk to people on their coding journey

in hopes of helping you on yours. I'm your host, Ron, and today we're talking about

how you can use music to learn code with Sam Aaron, creator of Sonic Pie.

Instead of teaching data structures, we taught bass rins.

Instead of teaching iteration, we taught melodies, which repeated.

If you have a question for Sam after listening, don't miss the Ask Me Anything session

he's hosting on the Codenuby Community Forum.

Just head to community.comunity.org, and you'll find his thread on our homepage, and he'll answer you directly in the comments.

That's community.cognuby.org.

In this episode, Sam talks about how programming basic games on calculators helped him learn to code,

developing a passion for combining music in code and creating Sonic Pie after this. Ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce platform made for entrepreneurs. Shopify is specially designed to help you start, run and grow your business with easy customizable themes that let you build your brand. Marketing tools that get your products out there. Integrated shipping solutions that actually save you time. From startups to scale ups, online, in person, and on the go.

Shopify is made for entrepreneurs like you.

Sign up for your $1 a month trial at Shopify.com slash setup.

Thanks so much for being here.

Hi there.

So Sam, I have heard about you for many years.

I am very embarrassed that I have not had you on the show yet. I'm very excited that you are here. I think your work is really, really awesome. So thank you so much for being here. Before we talk about the music and the code, let's dig into you a little bit. Tell me how you got interested in coding. I think I'm always interested in languages in general and reading and writing.

And when I was younger, my parents bought me a Spectrum 48K, which all those small computers

which plugged into the television, had little rubber keys, obviously to play games. That was my

main interest, on these little cassettes. But even to load a game up, you had to write a single

line of basic code.

The computer also came with a little manual which taught you how to program in basic. So that was really my first port of call was playing with this thing. And what was fun is the magazines you

...